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Friday, December 8

  1. page Topic 4 edited ... Xana: This first chapter of nip-tuck showtwo very important topics. The first one es the desi…
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    Xana:
    This first chapter of nip-tuck showtwo very important topics. The first one es the desire to have beauty and to be perfects. I think it show something that is imposible, I mean nobody is perfect, and say that kind of thing only make people feel bad with themselves and their body. I agree with plastic surgery if it's for a purpose like for a problem with skin or for burns, but I don't like this desire of people to operate to see themselves better. I believe that it creates standards of beauty that are not real, and that is why I am in total disagreement
    Oriol: This is a dialogue or debate betwen a couple because the woman wants an operation to fix her breasts, the husband who is a surgeon tells him that he does not make any surgery because they are perfect. In my opinion if she wants to do a surgery in her breasts, I'm not going to prohibit her for it, but I would don't any kind of surgery because I think it's a waste of money.
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  2. page Topic 1 edited ... Xana: This moment of the story show how Dorian see the portait for the very first time, he qui…
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    Xana: This moment of the story show how Dorian see the portait for the very first time, he quickly realizes of his beauty.
    This fact makes him feel bad, as he will grow older while the portrait will continue to be forever young. At this point Dorian makes a wish, that he remains forever young in exchange for his soul, from that moment on this desire becomes a reality. Dorian become an egoist who is willing to kill if its necessary. His portrait contains the shape of his soul, while his body remains forever young the portrait shows how his soul becomes darker. In the end he ends up regretting and stabbing the portrait and dies, since the portrait and him are connected. I think people ave fear to grow old, but is a fact that cannot be changed, that is why we have to live our lives to the fullest.
    Oriol: This topic it's so frequent today, and affects Dorian. For this thing Dorian say that he can give his soul for an eternal youth. In that moment, when he said that his life change to worse, because only the picture grew old. After that, Dorian carry a very horrible life, he becomes a solitary person and he gets a lot of problems for his new friends. In my opinion that thing it's horrible, get to this point just for wanting an eternal youth for me that's not a good idea.
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Thursday, December 7

  1. page Topic 3 edited ... According to what is said, as far as I’m concerned, people have to do whatever they think it’s…
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    According to what is said, as far as I’m concerned, people have to do whatever they think it’s okay. If they have the need of having an extra operation, of course they can do it. Nevertheless, I don’t think it would be a good idea, even if they have emotional lacks, as they aren’t mentally well. I mean, these people need a psychologist before than having a cosmetic surgery. We have to begin accepting our bodies. In fact we need to believe in ourselves.
    Yasmina:
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    main cause withwhy people hate
    Lluc: Christian thinks that they help people, but he only thinks about getting money, not about people feelings.Sean says that they only help to externalize people's insecurities, and the two friends aren't agree with the goal of their job. One wants to get money and the other prefers to help people and don't say lies to his patients.
    Eva:
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  2. page Topic 3 edited ... According to what is said, as far as I’m concerned, people have to do whatever they think it’s…
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    According to what is said, as far as I’m concerned, people have to do whatever they think it’s okay. If they have the need of having an extra operation, of course they can do it. Nevertheless, I don’t think it would be a good idea, even if they have emotional lacks, as they aren’t mentally well. I mean, these people need a psychologist before than having a cosmetic surgery. We have to begin accepting our bodies. In fact we need to believe in ourselves.
    Yasmina:
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    money without carryingcaring about their
    Lluc: Christian thinks that they help people, but he only thinks about getting money, not about people feelings.Sean says that they only help to externalize people's insecurities, and the two friends aren't agree with the goal of their job. One wants to get money and the other prefers to help people and don't say lies to his patients.
    Eva:
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Wednesday, December 6

  1. page Topic 3 edited ... Christian: Oh great. And lets do yoga in the lobby, too. Comment on this dialogue and this vi…
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    Christian: Oh great. And lets do yoga in the lobby, too.
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    Albert Menéndez:
    As we can see christian only thinks about getting more and more mooney, but sean has a diiferent point of view about their jobs, he wants to contrat a psychologist to avaluate people how want to have a plastic surgery. He wants that beaceuse he thinks that they could help people that really needs it, and not to waist heir time and qualities in people who only have whims and a lot of money. Of course, christian laughs at his friend's intentions and doesn't even thinks about contracting a psycologist.

    Jordi Batlle:
    As it is said in this short text, Sean was telling his partner Christian that his wife had demanded him a breast operation. Of course, Sean didn’t want her to have a plastic surgery operation as he knew she didn’t need any type of surgery. Nevertheless, Christian, who what something with Kimber, offered his help to operate Sean’s wife.
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  2. page Topic 3 edited ... But what you may not realize is the price of perfection goes deeper than your pockets and like…
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    But what you may not realize is the price of perfection goes deeper than your pockets and like Christian reflects in this dialogue, the economic benefit of the business is better for some companies than the health of their patien and he want to be convince that "they are just helping people externalize the hatred they feel about themselves and make them feel comfortable with their body" because of this depends his benefit. The surergy is his job but he handles it in a bad way.
    Contrary to that his brother Sean, thinks about the health of their patient and wants to hire an specialize to know if they are truly ready to do the operation. I agree with the way to work of Sean because he is more conscious and prudent.
    I think that medical surgery is important if we need to exchange vital organs for example and it is not bad if we feel bad with a small part of our body and modify it but I think it is a great business that benefits from other insecurities.
    Pau A. :
    In this brief dialogue, we can see how Christian is very little concerned about anything else than money and he tries to justify his actions using people's insecurities as an argument. For that, he says that their job isn't anything else than helping people, making them happier than they were before and that that is just something really good. On the other hand, Sean-with all due respect- is completely right saying that their job isn't to make people happy with a simple and nice job, rather than showing up their insecurities and the hatred that these insecurities imply, using that as a business. He feels really bad for manipulating people so much that he says that they would need a psychologist, with the goal of screening people better and doing a more ethical job. Christian, who is a really cold person, makes fun of that and says that they would need even yoga classes to screen people even better.
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    Comment on this dialogue and this video.
    Jordi Batlle:
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    Sean’s wife.
    However, once he got at their home and was alone with Kimber, Christian asked her to show him her breasts to see if she needed an operation. It wasn’t until then when he realised she didn’t have to have a surgery, her breasts had the perfect symmetry.
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    in ourselves.
    Yasmina:
    This dialogue is between Christian and Sean about the main goal of plastic surgery. Christian says that this kind of medical intervention is about making people feel good about themselves. However, Sean thinks that their job makes people hate themselves. With this dialogue, we can say that Christian sees plastic surgery as any other job which he must earn money without carrying about their clients’ mind health. On the other hand, Sean does keep in mind how plastic surgery can impact on people’s feelings, that’s the reason why he says that he wanted to hire a full time psychologist to screen people better. Christian answered Sean with irony saying that they should do yoga in the lobby, too. As a conclusion, we could say that Christian separates the economic goal of plastic surgery industry between what the clients might feel or might be going through. With the last sentence he says, he leaves clearly that their job doesn’t has to do with people’s feelings. However, Sean thinks that plastic surgery is the main cause with people hate themselves physically.
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    Anisa:
    This dialogue shows the different point of view of the surgeons. Plastic surgery is a surgical specialty involving the restoration, reconstruction, or alteration of the human body.
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    smaller nose, perkierlarger breasts, a tighter tummy from time to time, manyetc. Many of us find ourselves scrutinizing our bodieshave looked in the mirror and wonderingwondered if perfecting
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    make life just a little bit more, well,more perfect. We’d
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    we said we’dthat we had never gone on somefollowed a crazy crash diet to whittle our waists or that we have never used a priceyan expensive cream to toneimprove some part of our décolletage,face, but for some, it’sit is an obsession
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    plastic surgery. But
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    Contrary to that his brother Sean, thinks about the health of their patient and wants to hire an specialize to know if they are truly ready to do the operation. I agree with the way to work of Sean because he is more conscious and prudent.
    Pau A. :
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  4. page Topic 7 edited ... For me beauty is a superficial thing. Saying that beauty is inside is not true. It is evident …
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    For me beauty is a superficial thing. Saying that beauty is inside is not true. It is evident that there are different types of beauty, and that I can taste one thing that another person does not, but beauty is always something superficial, each one has a personal beauty and can be a very good person. But again I say that it is something superficial, beauty is the first thing a person sees of you.
    Lluc: the idea of beeing youn forever is an obsession of this society. Life is a process, you born, you grow, you become old, and you die. Anyone can be young all of his life, but all of us we try to do it. A lot of people use creams to hide their wrinkles, but this is not a solution to be forever young. You are only hidding you face, but your age is not changing. There isn't a method to be immortal or to be young forever.
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    obsessed with looking/actinglooking young, it's
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    the eyes. Besides believing we look better when we're young, we think
    Aging is a stage
    that aging makeswe all must live, such as childhood, adolescence and adulthood. It is always related to a bad stage but it's not. It is a stage in which you have more vulnerable. Diseasesexperience of life and injuries that in youth would be merely inconvenient, in old age can kill you. From hair dyes to Botoxwhich you are retired and you have more time for you which is a positive point. It's true that you usually get sick and you do not have as much energy as when you were younger, but not for this reason you have to wrinkleavoid this stage with creams to surgical procedures,and other expensive treatments.
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    all things. Trying to hang ontoWe must live life the fast lane too long deprives us offullest without carring about the introspection, self-understanding and deep thoughtsage that usually accompany growing older.we have or how we are looking because unfortunately there is not a magic drink that gives you the imortality so live every second of your life as if it were the last!
    FATIMA: ;)
    The search for beauty is something that in the current world many people pursue. From the 21st century until now, this concern to change the physical or improve it is evolving. My question is: Is it really necessary?
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  5. page Topic 10 edited ... In my opinion, women looked prettier before. Besides, beauty wasn't such an important think li…
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    In my opinion, women looked prettier before. Besides, beauty wasn't such an important think like now. Further, We judge people by their appearances. You have to love yourself no matter what people say.
    Anisa:
    TheEverything changes during the years and the concept of
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    woman’s body isn’t static. Ideals of beauty have been discussed at great lengthhas also changed. If we take a magazine from the 30s and compare it with 15tha current magazine, we can see a great contrast between the ideal woman of that time and 16th century women being compared to modern idols, but few people notice justthe current one. We can conclude by saying that how much
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    the past to modern icons as we now look to screen and magazine icons to dictate our ideals.
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    over time. Rehabs.com foundThey concluded their investigation by saying that the
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    percent today. Knowing this information manyMany brands like Dove, Debenham’s and H&M have made effortsorganizations began to include diversepromote the importance of being comfortable with one's own body types in their catalogs and ads.
    In 1910, it was all about the Gibson Girl look: the pouty, curvy woman who personified beauty portrayed
    not be influenced by the illustrationssexualized images of Charles Dana Gibson.
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    women we see on television.
    If we go back in time, we see that in just over 10 years
    the ideal moved away from the inicial curves. Instereotype of a perfect woman is radically changing. For example between 1910 with Gibson Girl (characterized for being a woman with curves) and 1920 with Flappers were known for( characterized by hiding their bobbed hair, shortened dresseswaist and “scandalous”breasts but for that epoque with a very scandalous behavior such asbecause they were smoking in public and driving cars. Flappers rarely wore corsets, downplaying their breasts and waists, and often showed their ankles or knees. Indriving). If we compare the 1950’s,1950's with our 21st century we can say that Marilyn Monroe’s womanly curves and perfect hourglass figure wereMonroe (icon of the most desired and sought after body type but in present day, shetime) would be
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    to meet our 21st century standards of beauty. Inwith the 80s the athletic body type became more popular. The 20th century brought safer cosmetics, freedom to wear as much or little makeup as they desired, lipsticks, the first liquid nail polish, and powder compacts and blushes. Makeup was considered standard. Few women went without it, and the cosmetic industry blew up. In addition, it brought something completely new to beauty: the tan. Insteadthin models of being stuck inside all day to show their wealth and luxury, woman instead went outside to play and lay in the sun, giving them a sunkissed bronze complexionVictoria's Secret that was considered the new beautiful. The media also became more popular in this century, due to the popularization of fashion and glamour magazines, showing and telling women exactly how they should strive to lookunfortunately many young girls struggle to be beautiful. Role models appeared in movies and models set the stage for perfection.
    The 2000s with Victoria's Secret Angel brought us the tall and thin models with big breast.
    like them but end up suffering from chronic diseases such as bulimia or anorexia.
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    the "wrapper". I still can not understand the obsession we have for pretending to be "handsome", beauty imposed by industries that do business with our own image.
    If you are not accepted by a group of people for the simple fact that they do not accept your physical image, believe me they are doing you a favor by rejecting you because those people are not worth it. The friends who are value are those who accept you for the simple fact of how you are as a person, regardless of your gender, age, religion and even less your physical appearance.
    Your physical appearance will change, you will grow old but your goodness will remain and is what is worth in a person. So the mos important thing is to believe in yourself, believe in who you are regardless of the beauty imposed.

    Aina:
    People have changed, and the ideal of beauty too. I think it has changed duty to the amount of advertising that is made, for example, from anti-aging creams, medical centers that modify your body and make cosmetic operations, etc. Now the physicist is very important because of this already people want to operate and try to be more perfect.
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    Albert Menéndez:
    Today beauty has the biggest impact ever in our society. Back in the 30's beauty wasn't that important, nowadays it is one of the biggest market of the world. Beauty condicionales our lives in a way that we don't realize, everything we do is judged by beauty. It gives a status and social position, and for me is not the good way for our society. In the begging of the last century beauty was important, of course, but it wasn't as important than today. It's sad that people judge other people for they beauty. Of course this judgements are stablished by beauty cannons.

    Jordi Batlle:
    As we can see nowadays, the ideal of beauty has experimented a big changed through the 20th century. As far as I'm concerned, all of this changes have become because of the different perspectives people have had during this years: economy and society has never been the same. Of course, it also depends on the new tendencies that fashion industry creates or exposed. In fact, all of us always try not to be old-fashioned as we want to show our best and also to demonstrate that we're alert of the new tendencies. But all of these that it's already mentioned is superficial. For me, the authentic beauty is found in our soul. Even if we can be very handsome or beautiful, we can be very unpleasant. In addition to this, beauty won't last forever, so I think it's time to begin understanding that beauty isn't all we have. However, this doesn't really mean that everybody don't have to take care of their own bodies. We need to start focusing in what are we instead how do we like.
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